For sure, I mean there’s a level of irony in Nick Cave’s dark facade too that I didn’t necessarily connect with goth culture. Aren’t goths more sentimental than ironic?

Oh yeah, “everyone in this room is wearing a uniform and don’t kid yourselves” plays in my head every now and then. It’s a good quote haha.

Should he have been Robert Fripp at Columbia University instead?

I’m not familiar with the anecdote. Unless you’re talking about when Robert Fripp yelled at someone for taking pictures at a concert or something?